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    How I Got Into Commercial Greenhouse Growing

    Back in the mid 70's, my parents bought some rural property, 30 miles outside Beaumont, Tx. They built a nice house on the 45 acres. Why here in this area, I'm not sure because Houston was our home town, 100 miles away. We had been living overseas at different places for almost 10 years, and my Dad was about ready to retire from his Electrical Engineering career. I was 18 at the time, and hated living out in the country. I had friends in Beaumont, and as soon as I could get a real job, I moved into town.

    Before I moved, one day I was driving my Mom home to the "Farm" from a trip into the little town nearby. There was a house off the highway, that had a big hoop style Greenhouse, approximately 30 x 100 foot. Mom wanted to just pull in there to talk to the man who lived there. I was mortified at going to a strangers house, and just bugging someone, but not my Mom. She had no problem doing such a thing. Turns out, the guy came out, and was happy to chat with Mom, and show us his setup.

    As it was, he grew hothouse tomatoes, and gave us a detailed explanation of how he went about growing a crop. Mom was looking for something to do, as she was totally going bonkers sitting out in the boonies, mostly by herself. She researched all she could about hydroponics at the library, and in magazines.

    I moved to the city, and that was the last I heard about her idea for the next few years. Around that time, one of my older Brothers and his wife and kid showed up at my parent's house, and moved in. He needed something to do for money, and it was decided my parents would bank roll a Greenhouse for him there on the property. Him and my Dad drove to College Station, Tx the home of Texas A&M University, and attended some seminars on Hydroponic Farming, tomatoes to be exact.

    My Brother dove into this project with a total commitment to making a success business out of it, and actually has been doing very well at it for 41 years now, only not as you would think. I'll explain how I got roped into this endeavour later in this thread. Some pics of Brother's first efforts, first.

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    A simple frame work, sloping down to a collection sump for return nutrient solution.

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    Polyethylene tubing laid over the frame like saddle bags. The seedling is inserted in through a small hole so the roots are submerged in the nutrient stream. The root mass grow into this stream, and fill in the tube eventually. A timer turns on a pump every twenty minutes to keep the roots saturated.

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    A crop on the way

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    Getting there

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    Ready for market

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    The Experts at Texas A&M said during the seminars that the goal for tomato production should be 9 lbs per vine. Brother never exceeded much over 7 lbs as I remember. Still, with 1000 vines, he'd harvest over 7000 lbs. During the first years, he put up two more Greenhouses of the same size. At first, he mixed his own nutrient formula that he learned from the seminars. Later, commercial formulas came on the market, like Peter's Professional, which he used for years to come. Other brands at lower prices came later with the same good results.

    He had to peddle his crop to hamburger joints and small grocery stores, but would also sell to everyone he met and friends of friends. One place was someone's hair dresser shop. You might notice the Hanging Baskets in the pic of him sorting the tomatoes. He would peddle a few baskets on the side while out selling. The woman at the hair salon went crazy over the house plants. It wouldn't take too much longer to figure out, Hanging Baskets were a whole lot easier to grow, and had much more profit per unit.

    After the first couple of years, he changed to growing his tomato vines in grow bags, using pulverized pine bark. The pine barks was available in bulk by the dump truck load. The bark was a by product of the local paper mills and could be delivered for about $12 per cu yard, or about $180 a load.

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    So, out with the tomatoes, in with the Hanging Baskets and other Ornamental Plants. He never looked back.

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    Thank you for this. I really enjoyed the story and the pictures.
    Some Americans are asking what to do with Trump. Here’s an idea. What would you have done if it was Obama? Do that.

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    Now, one may ask, how did I get into this business? Well, I continued living in the Big City during these years (about 8), and had two good careers at that time. The last being at Bethlehem Steel Shipyard building Offshore Oil Rigs. I had lucked into a job in the Engineering Department as a Draftsman. I started as a contractor, but was offered a Direct Position with the shipyard, making good money and outrageous benefits including unlimited sick leave and a retirement plan. That lasted two more years, then the Oil Business turned to crap. The Shipyard closed down, not too long after I resigned.

    In the mean time, my brother had gotten a divorce from his Spanish wife, handed the business back to my Dad, who was heavily invested by then, and took off back to Spain. Did I mention my Dad wanted to Retire?

    I told my Dad, that I would come into the Business as an equal partner, and take over running the place. They had already hired a couple of Mexican guys to do most of the planting and watering, but Dad had to do the peddling. He was all to glad to have me come take over. We put up two more greenhouses at that time, for a total of 5. Now I had only a little knowledge of running a operation like this, from talking to my Brother over the years. I didn't have any problems picking it up, with help from my parents and having hired help do most of the heavy lifting. I worked along side the guys planting, and did the construction and maintenance. When Spring time sells started, I went out to meet the customers and find new ones. That year, we had gross sales of about 50% more than my Brother had ever done.

    While my Brother was in Spain, a Spanish couple he was friends with, got a divorce as well. He was sweet on the woman, and she was all for going back to the USA with him. She came from a wealthy family that owned a bottle factory where she was the business manager. She had cash to invest in their own Nursery when they got back. My Brother wanted to start over somewhere else, namely Austin Tx.

    I tried to talk him into coming back into our business, and we'd buy out my Dad. My Brother would hear nothing about it, and said no way would he move back to the Boonies. Well, when he got back and made a trip to Austin to look for a building site, he was in for a rude awakening as to what it would cost to buy property and start from scratch.

    As it turned out, he began to come around to financial reality, discussed the situation with his new girlfriend, and they decided we could make a go at it together with a 60/40 split, them getting the 60%. I had told them that I hoped to get Married one day, and if she worked in the business, it would have to go to a 50/50 split. They agreed in principal at that time.

    They had the cash to put up a 5 bay - 100' x 100' gutter connected Greenhouse structure, where you can walk from one hoop house, to the next without hitting your head. That year we increased our gross sales by double all time. The next year, we found 3 used Greenhouses that we bought and put up. We had branched into growing Poinsettias in the Fall for Christmas sales, and used these three houses for that.

    This gave us a total growing area of 33,000 sq ft of grow space. The third year of the partnership, we increased our gross sales by 60% again. That's when the fighting started

    Poinsettias before they turn color.
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    Ok, I’m hooked. Tell me about the fighting!
    Some Americans are asking what to do with Trump. Here’s an idea. What would you have done if it was Obama? Do that.

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    Commercial Growing is like a factory. You have to keep product in the line, ready to go out the door. Space is money. Light is the engine that makes things grow. In order to keep things at optium, plants growing on the top level, grow the fastest, and thickest and stout. Plants below, do get some light and will root and hang in there, but they need to move up top to finish out, as the top rows sell out the door. We made extra long wire hooks, so one hanging basket is on top, next one hung down below, then the next is on top, and on down the line. The floor would be covered, lined up tight, side by side, below the hanging plants. About 800 baskets could be hung top and lower level, and 1500 on the floor, rooted, and ready to move up.

    Bugs and fungus love ornamental plants. It's a constant battle to keep those two under control. A bug eaten or fungus damaged plant is hard to sell. If damaged, they can be treated, but then must grow out to cover up the damage, but it's never the same as a plant that has never had any damage. Best to stay on top of things.

    In addition, here in Texas, to be a commercial grower or seller, one has to purchase a Nursery License. One of the few business that have to have a license to do business in Texas. This also means an Inspector from the State will drop in from time to time, and look under the leaves of your crop looking for infestations of pest bugs and other items like worker exposure to pesticides. They are usually very nice guys, if you stay on top of the bugs. This means I had to go in at least once every two weeks and spray noctous chemicals all over everything, getting soaked to the bone in these said chemicals. I'd wear a respirator, goggles, rubber boots, long sleeved shirt and jeans, but still, I'd have a buzz going when finished. I'd go straight in and strip off and take a long, hot shower, then go outside and sit in chair with a strong adult beverage and jell.

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    I take it that you didnt do the organic thing. Pretty tough to do here in Texas.

    The fighting????
    Some Americans are asking what to do with Trump. Here’s an idea. What would you have done if it was Obama? Do that.

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    During the third year of my partnership with my Brother, I met a girl at one of our Garden Center customers. We hit it off pretty good, and she had a real interest in plants and taking care of them. After we had dated a while, I asked her if she would like to move out to the farm and work with us. She was excited to do something like that, so it was planned. Maybe I should have discussed this with my Brother and his Girlfriend, but I didn't. This was the beginning of the end.

    My Brother started griping about every little thing he could find about me and my contribution to the business. Things had been great until I dropped the bomb about moving a girl in. One day, he had loaded some plants on the truck to deliver to a customer. When I got there, the customer said he couldn't use them. When I came home with them, my Brother pitched a fit, and threw them off the truck into a pile. Later he came up to me and said we needed to talk, and that it was not working out with us. One of us needed to sell out to the other and leave. He wanted an exorbitant price and terms, where if I didn't pay in full at the end of next season, he gets the whole place back and I leave with nothing. I countered with less than half of what he was asking, but I wanted cash. He couldn't do that, so it was agreed he would give me some cash, the last three Greenhouses we had bought and put up, a delivery cargo trailer, and some miscellaneous equipment. It took me a couple of months to find some land, take the Greenhouses down, move all my stuff, and get out. It was a very stressful time, during which I broke up with my girlfriend. Problems solve.

    This is what my new place looked like after a couple of years.

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